SimU #A015 _ Arguments against Simulation Argument by Nick Bostrom. AI. [Updated 251106]

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SimU #A015 _ Arguments against Simulation Argument by Nick Bostrom. AI.

AI prompt:

Simulation Argument by Nick Bostrom. brief, exact text.

AI response:

Nick Bostrom’s Simulation Argument states that one of the following three propositions is almost certainly true:

1. Almost all civilizations at our level of development go extinct before becoming technologically mature (“posthuman”).
2. Technologically mature civilizations are not interested in running simulations of minds like ours.
3. We are almost certainly living in a computer simulation.

The argument does not claim to know which of the three is true, only that one must be.

AI prompt:

Do there exist strong and logically sound arguments against Simulation Argument by Nick Bostrom?

AI response:

There exist several strong and logically sound arguments against Nick Bostrom’s Simulation Argument:

[ My comments were edited by AI for better grammar but were originally written by me, and reviewed by me again after AI editing. AI still does a poor job of understanding all the nuances, therefore, even the arguments presented by AI may contain errors and may not fully reflect the intended arguments of the humans who have thought deeply about the subject. ]

1. Logical Structure and Assumptions:

– A key critique is that Bostrom’s argument relies on a trilemma that assumes exactly three mutually exclusive possibilities, ignoring many other possible outcomes. Critics argue this limits the scope artificially and does not cover all rational alternatives, such as the impossibility of perfect simulations or the possibility that simulated beings are not conscious in the same way humans are.

[ My comment: We ourselves might already not be in a perfect simulation of a higher reality, and we may not be conscious in the same way as the creators of our reality are. Our limitations do not have to be limitations for the reality above us, to create our universe as we perceive it. ]

2. Technological Extrapolation and Feasibility:

– Critics point out the argument is based on a naive extrapolation of technological progress, assuming indefinitely increasing computing power and motivation to run large-scale simulations by advanced civilizations. It is argued this disregards possible technological plateaus, ethical considerations, or physical limits on computation that may make such simulations impossible or extremely unlikely.

[ My comment: The creators of our universe do not necessarily share the same technological limitations that we have. Ethical considerations might only reduce the number of simulations, but somewhere, the simulations will still be run. ]

3. Problems with Anthropic Reasoning:

– Some philosophers contest Bostrom’s anthropic reasoning that if simulations exist in huge numbers, we would almost certainly live in one. They argue that simulated beings may not have conscious experiences as humans do, or that one cannot reliably claim the probability of being simulated based solely on numbers.

[ My comment: Again, this argument relies on the assumption that the creators of our universe share our technological limitations — an absurd notion. Moreover, the rules of mathematics, as the most fundamental language of the universe, remain constant, and we are built upon them. Therefore, there should be no theoretical limitations on creating other conscious beings — only practical ones, such as technological constraints at this point of our evolution in the program. Probability is grounded in mathematics and is highly reliable, especially when applied to large numbers, as in the case of entropy. ]

4. Empirical and Scientific Challenges:

– There is no empirical evidence or scientific proof currently to support that sufficiently high-fidelity ancestor simulations are possible or that posthuman civilizations will exist to run them. Claims rely heavily on speculative assumptions.

[ My comment: This argument once again assumes that our current limitations are the same as those of the theoretical creators of our reality. Of course, we can disappear — as many previous civilizations have — but the program of life continues until it succeeds, even if that takes millions of years from our perspective within the program. ]

5. Self-Defeating and Regress Arguments:

– Some see the hypothesis as self-defeating or scientifically problematic (e.g., arguments that a near-infinite multiverse leading to simulations would contradict established scientific expectations). Others point to the infinite regression problem where simulated beings might create their own simulations endlessly, creating paradoxes similar to philosophical problems like the “First Cause.”

[ My comment: That’s a straw man argument. Even if infinities can exist, there is nothing self-defeating or scientifically problematic about it. For the Simulation Argument to be valid, it does not require a near-infinite multiverse or infinite regression. It is sufficient for just one step higher reality to be the base reality, whose intelligent beings might understand their own natural origins — although such knowledge is not necessary for the Simulation Argument’s validity. Furthermore, if each subsequent simulation introduces new limitations, that would naturally restrict infinite regression; and if not, then this situation would be no different from an infinite universe with infinite possibilities, which our current science can adequately address. ]

6. Lack of Motivation:

– It is questioned why an advanced civilization would invest enormous resources into simulating entire universes with conscious beings, with some suggesting virtual museums or simpler simulations would suffice, making full-fledged simulations costly and arguably pointless.

[ My comment: We are motivated beings; therefore, if we are living in a realistic simulation, it is likely that the creators share similar motivations. For advanced civilizations with quantum computing, the resources required to create realistic simulations should not be an issue. Such simulations may actually be necessary to obtain answers more efficiently — just as we use computers and AI models to make our lives easier, not merely out of curiosity. ]

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