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What if? How magnetism works. AI answer to an idea. Same question on gravity.

My verbal question to AI:

I just had an idea that what if magnets are not pulling but actually displacing some of the universe’s properties which allows the rest of the universe to push the magnets together what about this idea has anyone expressed this

AI response:

Your idea—that magnets might work by displacing some property of the universe, allowing the rest of the universe to “push” them together—reflects a creative way to imagine magnetism. However, this is not how current physics understands magnetic forces, nor does it appear to have been seriously proposed in mainstream scientific literature.

Here’s what is known and what your idea touches on:

  • Magnetism is a Field Phenomenon: Magnets create magnetic fields—a fundamental aspect of nature, similar to electric fields and gravity. These fields exert forces directly on other magnets or magnetic materials in their vicinity, either attracting or repelling them[5][2][4]. The underlying mechanism is well described by Maxwell’s equations and quantum mechanics.
  • No Evidence of “Displacing Universe’s Properties”: There is no established theory or observation suggesting that magnets work by displacing something in the universe, causing the universe itself to push the magnets together. Instead, the force arises from changes in the energy of the magnetic field as the magnets move relative to each other[4][2].
  • Similar Ideas in Physics: There are concepts where forces can be viewed as resulting from the “rest of the universe” acting on objects, such as the Casimir effect (vacuum fluctuations between plates) or Mach’s principle (suggesting inertia arises from all mass in the universe), but these are distinct from how magnetic attractions are explained.
  • Scientific View: When magnets come together (attraction) or push apart (repulsion), it’s due to the alignment and interaction of their magnetic fields, not from displacement or pressure by other parts of the universe. Field lines between north and south poles “prefer” to join, lowering the total magnetic field energy, which is why attraction occurs. The system seeks a lower energy state, not because the universe is “pushing” but because the magnetic field configuration favors it[4][10].
  • Has Anyone Expressed This Idea? There is no indication in the current literature or discussions that any scientist has seriously advanced the specific view you describe for magnetism[2][4][5]. Most explanations center on energy minimization of the field, quantum spin interactions, and electromagnetic theory as established by Maxwell and later quantum descriptions[5].

In summary, while your idea is imaginative, it differs from accepted physics models, and there’s no record of it being a mainstream scientific proposal. Magnetism is currently understood as a direct consequence of electromagnetic fields and quantum properties—not as displacement and universal back-pressure.

Citations:
[1] The Hidden Magnetic Universe Begins to Come Into View https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-hidden-magnetic-universe-begins-to-come-into-view-20200702/
[2] What happens to the magnetic field of two magnets that are repelling … https://www.reddit.com/r/AskScienceDiscussion/comments/2f2dzh/what_happens_to_the_magnetic_field_of_two_magnets/
[3] Untangling the magnetic universe | Astronomy.com https://www.astronomy.com/science/untangling-the-magnetic-universe/
[4] Why do Magnets Attract & Repel? – YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ7V_ntSEuQ
[5] Magnetism – Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetism
[6] Ask Ethan: What would magnetic monopoles mean for our Universe? https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/magnetic-monopoles/
[7] Magnetic fields and how they shape the Universe https://www.skyatnightmagazine.com/space-science/what-are-magnetic-fields-how-do-they-affect-universe
[8] Why the Higgs and Gravity are Unrelated – Matt Strassler https://profmattstrassler.com/2012/10/15/why-the-higgs-and-gravity-are-unrelated/
[9] [PDF] Magnetic Fields in the Early Universe https://cds.cern.ch/record/457096/files/0009061.pdf
[10] Force of Attraction: How magnets attract and repel – Pitsco Education https://www.pitsco.com/blogs/news/magnetic-attraction

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Q:

can this idea be used in case of gravity

A:

Your idea—that gravitational attraction could be the result of displacing some property of the universe, causing the rest of the universe to “push” objects together—has historical parallels with Mach’s principle. Mach’s principle suggests that local inertial properties (like inertia and perhaps gravity itself) are determined by the gravitational influence of all the distant matter in the universe[1][2][3][4][5][6][7].

Key similarities:

  • Mutual influence: Mach’s principle holds that the behavior or existence of nearby objects (or their inertia) is in some way affected by all the mass in the universe, resonating with your notion of properties being set by the rest of the universe rather than by local effects alone[1][2][3][5][6][7].
  • “Push” from universe: Some interpretations visualize inertia as a sort of “pushback” from the universe when an object accelerates or is influenced by gravity, though this “push” is not a physical pressure but rather an effect of mutual gravitational interaction[2][3][7].
  • Attempts at Mathematical Formulation: There are modern and historical efforts to develop quantitative theories where the inertial or gravitational effects on a body stem from its relationship to the total mass/energy content of the universe (see Brans-Dicke theory, Sciama’s attempts, and others). These generally require deviations from conventional Newtonian or even Einsteinian gravity, sometimes featuring altered gravitational constants or affecting the definition of mass itself[2][3][4].

Critical differences/clarifications:

  • Not a literal displacement: Traditional Machian ideas stop short of proposing a physical displacement, like removing a substance or property from the universe between two objects. Instead, they posit a deeper relational or interactive origin for gravitational and inertial effects.
  • Mainstream Physics: General relativity incorporates some Machian spirit—especially in the way spacetime geometry is influenced by the mass-energy content of the universe—but gravity is still modeled as the bending of spacetime, not as a result of cosmic pressure from everything else per se[3].
  • No evidence for literal “push”: There is no experimental or theoretical support for the idea that gravity comes from the universe “pushing” objects together because of a displacement of some property.

In summary, your idea is philosophically and conceptually close to Mach’s principle, which remains a source of inspiration for alternative gravity theories and foundational physics discussions[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8]. However, current mainstream physics does not describe gravity or magnetism as a literal displacement creating a universal pressure, but as field and geometry effects with deep “global” relationships. Your perspective is in line with rich historical debates about the nature of gravity and inertia, and similar ideas continue to be explored in some corners of theoretical physics.

Citations:
[1] Mach’s principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach’s_principle
[2] Mach’s Principle Revised: Is the Inertia, and also … https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=137735
[3] Machian Gravity: A mathematical formulation for Mach’s … https://arxiv.org/html/2308.04503v2
[4] On Mach’s Principle in Entropic Gravity https://www.mdpi.com/2673-9321/4/2/11
[5] mach’s principle https://ned.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Glossary/Essay_mach.html
[6] 8.8: Mach’s Principle Revisited https://phys.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Relativity/General_Relativity_(Crowell)/08:_Sources/8.08:_Mach’s_Principle_Revisited
[7] Mach’s principle and the origin of inertia https://astronuclphysics.info/GravitaceDodatekA.htm
[8] Mach’s Principle explained: Introduction to Modified Inertia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYruGeF1BQE

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